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Monday, 23 January 2012 11:45
No one likes the media, with the possible exception of people who work in it, so I am not deluding myself into believing I will change any minds with this quick attempt to explain the industry I have worked in for over 40 years.
But . . .
People need to understand the media is not a single entity, as many seem to perceive it. It is thousands, if not tens of thousands, of independent and different organizations.
Media groups range in size from the very small, this blog, to the very large -- New York Times, ESPN, CBS, AP, etc.
Many people do not understand or refuse to acknowledge the difference.
On Saturday night, when a handful of media organizations incorrectly reported that Joe Paterno had died, the media -- not those particular organizations -- was criticized.
On Sunday, a local radio station did not handle the Paterno death in a manner suitable to one commenter on this site. He mentioned the station and then damned the media.
To blame the media for the mistakes of one or a few organizations would be like labeling all professional sports teams as thuggish on the basis of how the New York Islanders conducted themselves in their infamous game with the Penguins last year.
The vast majority of media outlets got it right about Paterno.
Last week, someone misread a headline at post-gazette.com and thought it was a deliberate attempt to shower favor on Penn State because a person of influence at the newspaper -- who had nothing to do with the headline -- is a PSU alum. The person complaining missed a comma. There was no favor shown toward Penn State.
There is a perception out there that the media deliberately makes mistakes to influence opinions. Think about it. Why would an industry that relies on credibility deliberately attempt to destroy that credibility? It makes no sense.
Nobody likes to make mistakes. I am sure that is true in all professions. I know it's true in the media.
Most businesses and most people make their mistakes in private. Media mistakes are out there for everyone to see.
I understand that like lawyers and like Congress, no one likes the media. That’s your right. But the next time you see a mistake -- and you surely will -- try to remember it was not the media but one single organization -- probably one person -- who made the mistake and not multiple industries composed of millions of people.
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written by BobRobertsonsbunt, January 23, 2012 - 10:02 AM
written by BobRobertsonsbunt, January 23, 2012 - 10:02 AM
Great comments Bob. But I think the main villain here has become the electronic media. Like you, I spent a great deal of my life (30 years) working with broadcast news. In the last 15-20 years or so, consultants have changed broadcast news for the worse. When I started, it was important to confirm stories before airing them...make no mistake, our bosses wanted them quickly but factually correct. That went out the window in the early '90s.
People who don't live in your city have more say over your local broadcast news than the people who work in the newsrooms. They say things like, "super the anchor names more, that'll help ratings." REALLY ??? These are also the folks who tell us local sports doesn't matter...if people want sports, they'll go to ESPN.
Why do the local stations lead with weather over a snow flurry ??? Because consultants tell the station managers that that will increase viewership. And don't give the complete forecast...tease them so they'll stay tuned in.
Worst of all, IMO, is the need to get "breaking news" on the air FIRST. Don't worry that you really haven't confirmed the story with a reliable source...we have to be FIRST.
I think the breakdown of broadcast news organizations has spilled over to include the print media. Which I understand now is somewhat transitioning into broadcast as well. Add to that the social media...where there may or may not be any checks or balances...and EVERYTHING is up for grabs.
I still enjoy reading the paper...if it is electronically. And rely (hope) that journalism still exists in print.
People who don't live in your city have more say over your local broadcast news than the people who work in the newsrooms. They say things like, "super the anchor names more, that'll help ratings." REALLY ??? These are also the folks who tell us local sports doesn't matter...if people want sports, they'll go to ESPN.
Why do the local stations lead with weather over a snow flurry ??? Because consultants tell the station managers that that will increase viewership. And don't give the complete forecast...tease them so they'll stay tuned in.
Worst of all, IMO, is the need to get "breaking news" on the air FIRST. Don't worry that you really haven't confirmed the story with a reliable source...we have to be FIRST.
I think the breakdown of broadcast news organizations has spilled over to include the print media. Which I understand now is somewhat transitioning into broadcast as well. Add to that the social media...where there may or may not be any checks or balances...and EVERYTHING is up for grabs.
I still enjoy reading the paper...if it is electronically. And rely (hope) that journalism still exists in print.
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written by jethro, January 23, 2012 - 10:04 AM
written by jethro, January 23, 2012 - 10:04 AM
@chollister
Well said. I would only add the following to your final sentence: "Was actually pretty good journalisme minus CBS and the PSU student paper, which was the original source of the erroneous story."
Well said. I would only add the following to your final sentence: "Was actually pretty good journalisme minus CBS and the PSU student paper, which was the original source of the erroneous story."
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written by PiratesFanSince1960, January 23, 2012 - 10:10 AM
written by PiratesFanSince1960, January 23, 2012 - 10:10 AM
My industry the CEO makes many millions even if company loses money.
CEOs and employees of firms that create a killing substance or cause huge pollution get paid.
Lawyers, inside that court room one of them is lying and getting paid to do so.
I could go on regarding many professions...
Guess Writers, make mistakes as well LOL
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CEOs and employees of firms that create a killing substance or cause huge pollution get paid.
Lawyers, inside that court room one of them is lying and getting paid to do so.
I could go on regarding many professions...
Guess Writers, make mistakes as well LOL
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written by Naterosboro, January 23, 2012 - 10:16 AM
written by Naterosboro, January 23, 2012 - 10:16 AM
Bob,
Generalizations are a part of everyday human life.
Being a person who is trying to break into the media/entertainment industry, I share you view that each report is independent of the other (and the person who is reporting it).
But, that won't ever stop from people referring to the "media" as a solo entity (even tho it is made up of thousands of different people/orgs.)
While your attempt to help people understand how the "media" works is honorable, I just feel like it is futile.
For the majority, the "media" will do just fine. They like it like that. It makes it easier for them to know "who to blame".
Generalizations are a part of everyday human life.
Being a person who is trying to break into the media/entertainment industry, I share you view that each report is independent of the other (and the person who is reporting it).
But, that won't ever stop from people referring to the "media" as a solo entity (even tho it is made up of thousands of different people/orgs.)
While your attempt to help people understand how the "media" works is honorable, I just feel like it is futile.
For the majority, the "media" will do just fine. They like it like that. It makes it easier for them to know "who to blame".
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written by Mr. Pitt, January 23, 2012 - 10:17 AM
written by Mr. Pitt, January 23, 2012 - 10:17 AM
Our "need" to get information as quickly as possible and the competition to break a story is the culprit here. The Paterno mistake was just one example of many. The Bob Bostad report just a few days earlier was another. It hapens with alarming regularity nowadays.
I would venture to say that mistakes in all industries happen with alarming regularity. You do realize that the media reports about, this is a guess, one million facts a day. Obviously, there will be errors.
Did I miss something? I've seen no report or denial that the Bostad story was wrong. -- Bob Smizik
I would venture to say that mistakes in all industries happen with alarming regularity. You do realize that the media reports about, this is a guess, one million facts a day. Obviously, there will be errors.
Did I miss something? I've seen no report or denial that the Bostad story was wrong. -- Bob Smizik
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written by csf, January 23, 2012 - 10:28 AM
written by csf, January 23, 2012 - 10:28 AM
FWIW, my complaint of that headline was meant to be sarcastic ... I guess a little bit too tongue-in-cheek.
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written by Fat Jimmy, January 23, 2012 - 10:28 AM
I know what you are saying, Bob, and I have heard Kovacevic rail about the same thing. But here's something that those of you in the media won't like to hear -- y'all aren't as original thinkers (or as thorough) as you'd like to believe.
In that respect, the media sort of acts as a single entity.
The Paterno situation is a good example. A PSU news site misreported his death. CBS News -- without it's own sources -- reported the death based on the PSU reporting. Many (even most) of the football and baseball writers and columnists that I follow on Twitter (as well as TV stations and radio stations) proceded to report the news based on the CBS report.
It was not a good night for journalism, but it was a great example of how "the media" often acts in a near-singular voice based on cascading information.
And most news organizations have learned to be more patient when it comes to death. I still remember several years ago when Terrell Owens had his alleged suicide attempt. "The media" almost unilaterally reported that suicide attempt and continued to report it and comment on it throughout the day, without any new reporting or information directly from TO, a doctor or law enforcement official. It was just one news outlet after another taking each others' stories and building on them.
I know journalists are sensitive to criticism, but that type of lazy news has become a real problem in the digital age and it's something that all news organizations need to be more aggressive in stopping -- and not just on the big stories.
written by Fat Jimmy, January 23, 2012 - 10:28 AM
People need to understand the media is not a single entity, as many seem to perceive it. It is thousands, if not tens of thousands, of independent and different organizations.
I know what you are saying, Bob, and I have heard Kovacevic rail about the same thing. But here's something that those of you in the media won't like to hear -- y'all aren't as original thinkers (or as thorough) as you'd like to believe.
In that respect, the media sort of acts as a single entity.
The Paterno situation is a good example. A PSU news site misreported his death. CBS News -- without it's own sources -- reported the death based on the PSU reporting. Many (even most) of the football and baseball writers and columnists that I follow on Twitter (as well as TV stations and radio stations) proceded to report the news based on the CBS report.
It was not a good night for journalism, but it was a great example of how "the media" often acts in a near-singular voice based on cascading information.
And most news organizations have learned to be more patient when it comes to death. I still remember several years ago when Terrell Owens had his alleged suicide attempt. "The media" almost unilaterally reported that suicide attempt and continued to report it and comment on it throughout the day, without any new reporting or information directly from TO, a doctor or law enforcement official. It was just one news outlet after another taking each others' stories and building on them.
I know journalists are sensitive to criticism, but that type of lazy news has become a real problem in the digital age and it's something that all news organizations need to be more aggressive in stopping -- and not just on the big stories.
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written by chuddy, January 23, 2012 - 10:34 AM
written by chuddy, January 23, 2012 - 10:34 AM
Guilty by association......
And who really cares, at the end of the day, which news source "broke" the article first? No one cares, thus no one remembers. Do you recall the first entity that broke 9/11? Or the killing of bin Laden?
Perhaps "media" types care, but no one on the outside does.
And who really cares, at the end of the day, which news source "broke" the article first? No one cares, thus no one remembers. Do you recall the first entity that broke 9/11? Or the killing of bin Laden?
Perhaps "media" types care, but no one on the outside does.
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written by Mr. Pitt, January 23, 2012 - 10:40 AM
I would venture to say that mistakes in all industries happen with alarming regularity. You do realize that the media reports about, this is a guess, one million facts a day. Obviously, there will be errors.
Did I miss something? I've seen no report or denial that the Bostad story was wrong. -- Bob Smizik
I'm sorry if I offended you, but I do think the accuracy of reporting has declined over the last several years due to the ease of getting information from the internet and the public's insatiable appetite for it.
As for Bostad, the original report said that Bostad was to be named OL coach of Bears last Thursday. Bostad may be in the running for this job, but the original report suggested it was a done deal. Big difference in my mind.
written by Mr. Pitt, January 23, 2012 - 10:40 AM
I would venture to say that mistakes in all industries happen with alarming regularity. You do realize that the media reports about, this is a guess, one million facts a day. Obviously, there will be errors.
Did I miss something? I've seen no report or denial that the Bostad story was wrong. -- Bob Smizik
I'm sorry if I offended you, but I do think the accuracy of reporting has declined over the last several years due to the ease of getting information from the internet and the public's insatiable appetite for it.
As for Bostad, the original report said that Bostad was to be named OL coach of Bears last Thursday. Bostad may be in the running for this job, but the original report suggested it was a done deal. Big difference in my mind.
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written by Fat Jimmy, January 23, 2012 - 10:43 AM
This is a good point. And -- in fairness to Bob -- this is the case in all industries, not just media. I mean, how many of us could really name which banks took bailouts and which didn't? I'd wager that most consumers just lump all the banks together, from a perception standpoint.
written by Fat Jimmy, January 23, 2012 - 10:43 AM
And who really cares, at the end of the day, which news source "broke" the article first? No one cares, thus no one remembers. Do you recall the first entity that broke 9/11? Or the killing of bin Laden?
This is a good point. And -- in fairness to Bob -- this is the case in all industries, not just media. I mean, how many of us could really name which banks took bailouts and which didn't? I'd wager that most consumers just lump all the banks together, from a perception standpoint.
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written by RRM1, January 23, 2012 - 10:44 AM
written by RRM1, January 23, 2012 - 10:44 AM
*t's not dislike, it's distrust. Your chosen field long ago shot itself in the foot when it comes to benefit of the doubt. Non-sports media lost this some time ago. Sports media has exhibited all too often the past decade. I don't even need to point to the coverage of JoePa. Just think Mike Leech. If these were isolated, fine. But it happens so much that there is simply no doubt we have a systemic failure in sports media. Circle the wagons all you want, but its up to you to make me trust you; it's not my job to bestow trust on you just because you are a reporter.
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written by Niblick, January 23, 2012 - 10:44 AM
written by Niblick, January 23, 2012 - 10:44 AM
Interesting subject for your blog Bob. But, why do you feel compelled to defend the media? You are probably right about everything you wrote except for this one line . . .
Deliberately making a mistake might not be the proper way to phrase that. I do believe that headlines to stories, and yes even your own blog, can be worded in a very misleading way to get attention. And, in the political world, there are definitely newspapers and organizations that slant the news to further their own agenda. In my opinion, the media isn't 100% credible. As a consumer, you have to filter out what you think is not credible.
There is a perception out there that the media deliberately makes mistakes to influence opinions.
Deliberately making a mistake might not be the proper way to phrase that. I do believe that headlines to stories, and yes even your own blog, can be worded in a very misleading way to get attention. And, in the political world, there are definitely newspapers and organizations that slant the news to further their own agenda. In my opinion, the media isn't 100% credible. As a consumer, you have to filter out what you think is not credible.
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written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 10:46 AM
written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 10:46 AM
Unfortunately, Bob, you're defending an industry that changed for the worse since your time at the desk.
As others have pointed out, they Paterno death rumors show that the "media" absolutely functions as a single entity once a story is broken.
Not only that, but sources and retractions are a thing of the past. CBS's "source" wasn't a PSU student newspaper. It was the Twitter feed of an unauthorized fan site with no official connection to the university.
That is indefensible unprofessionalism.
If the media ``functions as a single entity once a story is broken,'' why did the vast majority of news organizations NOT get the Paterno story wrong?
Why did almost all, including this one, not run with the news that Paterno died Saturday night? -- Bob Smizik
As others have pointed out, they Paterno death rumors show that the "media" absolutely functions as a single entity once a story is broken.
Not only that, but sources and retractions are a thing of the past. CBS's "source" wasn't a PSU student newspaper. It was the Twitter feed of an unauthorized fan site with no official connection to the university.
That is indefensible unprofessionalism.
If the media ``functions as a single entity once a story is broken,'' why did the vast majority of news organizations NOT get the Paterno story wrong?
Why did almost all, including this one, not run with the news that Paterno died Saturday night? -- Bob Smizik
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written by Burghman28, January 23, 2012 - 10:48 AM
written by Burghman28, January 23, 2012 - 10:48 AM
I don't want to hear any complaints about the media beling blamed for this or that or how they are treated when mistakes are made.
To compare mistakes made by the media to those made every day by the common worker is as ridiculous as this particular subject.
If most readers of this blog make a mistake at worse its going to cost someone a free meal at the restaurtant they work at, or a discount at the retail store they work at. Those mistakes aren't out there for everyone to see but those mistakes also only effect 1 or 2 people.
When the media makes a mistake; depending on the severity or topic of the mistake it can ruin a persons life, or ruin a persons reputation even if a retraction is run.
If you want to work in the eye of the public you need to be prepared to pay for the consenquences whenever you make a mistake that effects the public whether it was meant intentionally or not.
To compare mistakes made by the media to those made every day by the common worker is as ridiculous as this particular subject.
If most readers of this blog make a mistake at worse its going to cost someone a free meal at the restaurtant they work at, or a discount at the retail store they work at. Those mistakes aren't out there for everyone to see but those mistakes also only effect 1 or 2 people.
When the media makes a mistake; depending on the severity or topic of the mistake it can ruin a persons life, or ruin a persons reputation even if a retraction is run.
If you want to work in the eye of the public you need to be prepared to pay for the consenquences whenever you make a mistake that effects the public whether it was meant intentionally or not.
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written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 10:49 AM
written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 10:49 AM
Also, Bob, I have absolutely zero sorrow for an industry being universally labeled together when just two months ago all I read about was how PSU "doesn't get it". PSU is corrupted. PSU culture needs to change.
Those in glass houses...
Those in glass houses...
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written by BobRobertsonsbunt, January 23, 2012 - 10:50 AM
written by BobRobertsonsbunt, January 23, 2012 - 10:50 AM
Chuddy and Fat Jimmy,
You guys hit the nail on the head...and again, I'm only speaking of the broadcast end of the industry. No one remembers who was first, except the station managers, consultants, and promotion folks. For too long the broadcast news business has worked to impress the competing station, not the public it's supposed to serve.
In truth, the folks running broadcast stations care very little about you as a consumer, unless you're buying air time.
The broadcast news industry lost sight long ago of what was important...and gave in, as so many do, to the almighty dollar.
You guys hit the nail on the head...and again, I'm only speaking of the broadcast end of the industry. No one remembers who was first, except the station managers, consultants, and promotion folks. For too long the broadcast news business has worked to impress the competing station, not the public it's supposed to serve.
In truth, the folks running broadcast stations care very little about you as a consumer, unless you're buying air time.
The broadcast news industry lost sight long ago of what was important...and gave in, as so many do, to the almighty dollar.
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written by richie, January 23, 2012 - 10:51 AM
written by richie, January 23, 2012 - 10:51 AM
Not saying all media is bad or evil but the need to be the first or to sensationalize happens all too often.
The Trib had Russ Grimm as the next Steeler coach. Joe pa's death premature. The new PSU HC seemed to change every other day. When bad weather is forecast, you'd think the world was ending. Last week in Florida the TV weather showed the 5 day LOW temperature only. I'm in the investment business. When the markets are down, it makes front page news. The media likes to sell the sizzle...and bad news and sizzle sell.
They are plenty of decent used car sale people out there, but they are broad brushed as shysters. Sorry but the media can get a similar reputation
The Trib had Russ Grimm as the next Steeler coach. Joe pa's death premature. The new PSU HC seemed to change every other day. When bad weather is forecast, you'd think the world was ending. Last week in Florida the TV weather showed the 5 day LOW temperature only. I'm in the investment business. When the markets are down, it makes front page news. The media likes to sell the sizzle...and bad news and sizzle sell.
They are plenty of decent used car sale people out there, but they are broad brushed as shysters. Sorry but the media can get a similar reputation
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written by Fat Jimmy, January 23, 2012 - 10:52 AM
written by Fat Jimmy, January 23, 2012 - 10:52 AM
And, btw, here is an exact quote from Gerry Dulac's coverage of Bruce Arians' firing:
Arians was a favorite target of Steelers fans who complained about his play-calling -- a frequent lament directed at offensive coordinators -- and was often derided for throwing too much.
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg...1kIj42Z9f
For the record, not all Steeler fans criticized Arians' play calling. Why does "the media" have to lump "the fans" together as if we were a single entity????? :-)
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written by dimdem, January 23, 2012 - 10:52 AM
written by dimdem, January 23, 2012 - 10:52 AM
I think that we mostly get the media we deserve. Why do consultants tell local stations that a tease about the weather will get viewers, even when the real news is only snow flurries? Because a majority of us will actually fall for this. The media is largely governed by the free market. If they aren't giving us the kind of information that they should---and they aren't---it's because the demand for that kind of information doesn't exist, or at least isn't great enough.
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written by PSB, January 23, 2012 - 10:55 AM
written by PSB, January 23, 2012 - 10:55 AM
Bob- As a career journalist in newspapers, I agree. Sometimes certain people in my profession make me sick. But it's the same as labeling every person who holds a camera as "paparazzi". If you disagree with a reporter, then don't lump everyone into the same boat because not all of us are in that same boat.
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written by bicwiley, January 23, 2012 - 10:58 AM
written by bicwiley, January 23, 2012 - 10:58 AM
The reason "media" bashing is now in vogue is not because on one episode like the one highlighted. The reason is because the vast majority of the "media" long ago allowed the editorial pages to become blurred with was at one time actual "reporting". So now, even when honest mistakes are made, the "media" get painted with the same brush, even if it is underserving. My kingdom for a newspaper not driven to propogandize everything they touch.
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written by BobRobertsonsbunt, January 23, 2012 - 11:00 AM
written by BobRobertsonsbunt, January 23, 2012 - 11:00 AM
Pay close attention to the writing in the broadcast news you watch/listen to...when you do, you'll begin to see how it attempts to steer the viewer/listener to stay tuned to the newscast you're involved with. Even though the upcoming story may not be an important, or most likely, local news story at all.
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written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 11:01 AM
written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 11:01 AM
Bob
I've cracked jokes several times at people claiming "the media" is out to get the Steelers, James Harrison, or any of the other Pittsburgh myths.
I absolutely do not have the anti media bias of some.
But when CBS, Washington Post, Huffington Post, and other major news outlets run with the same false story, forgive me if I don't address each one individually everytime it comes up...
And for the record, Onward State, the originator of the rumor, has been the only media outlet to issue an official retraction and/or had their editor step down.
This is an industry you want to defend?
I was not attempting to defend the media but explain it -- although I could see how you reached your conclusion.
I am proud to be a member of the media. Most people I know, but not all, take their jobs with great seriousness and understand its importance. There are millions in the industry and they are disseminating millions upon millions of facts every day. Are there going to be mistakes? Absolutely. -- Bob Smizik
I've cracked jokes several times at people claiming "the media" is out to get the Steelers, James Harrison, or any of the other Pittsburgh myths.
I absolutely do not have the anti media bias of some.
But when CBS, Washington Post, Huffington Post, and other major news outlets run with the same false story, forgive me if I don't address each one individually everytime it comes up...
And for the record, Onward State, the originator of the rumor, has been the only media outlet to issue an official retraction and/or had their editor step down.
This is an industry you want to defend?
I was not attempting to defend the media but explain it -- although I could see how you reached your conclusion.
I am proud to be a member of the media. Most people I know, but not all, take their jobs with great seriousness and understand its importance. There are millions in the industry and they are disseminating millions upon millions of facts every day. Are there going to be mistakes? Absolutely. -- Bob Smizik
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written by rjlesnak, January 23, 2012 - 11:06 AM
written by rjlesnak, January 23, 2012 - 11:06 AM
I just cannot get over the "100 page" police report filed in 1998 about the defensive coordinator of the PSU football team. How in the world does the head coach claim he knew nothing of this report? Once the cover-up of this occurred, there was no choice but to continue the cover up the 2002 event since the 2002 event only happened because the 1998 event was squashed.
How did the local State College media know nothing about this 1998 event? Do not most media have their "sources". It was a massive cover-up that could have prevented the alleged abuse by Sandusky. If handled differently in 1998, only Sandusky would have faced these horrible charges and Paterno and the University reputations would have been spared if not for the obsession with protecting the football program.
How did the local State College media know nothing about this 1998 event? Do not most media have their "sources". It was a massive cover-up that could have prevented the alleged abuse by Sandusky. If handled differently in 1998, only Sandusky would have faced these horrible charges and Paterno and the University reputations would have been spared if not for the obsession with protecting the football program.
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written by BillDavis, January 23, 2012 - 11:17 AM
written by BillDavis, January 23, 2012 - 11:17 AM
The media is the only profesion that might be older than the oldest profession. The only difference, is that the media is less honest work...
What do you do for a living, Mr. Davis? -- Bob Smizik
What do you do for a living, Mr. Davis? -- Bob Smizik
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written by tbhap, January 23, 2012 - 11:21 AM
written by tbhap, January 23, 2012 - 11:21 AM
I usually agree with your opinions, but the older I become, the more I view the 'media' with more distrust and distaste. There are journalists which I enjoy reading and find their stories interesting, but the places those people work for are only in it for the money and ratings. I saw three different versions of Paterno's condition on Saturday night; 'Paterno in series condition', 'Paterno in grave condition', 'Paterno died'. It is clear to me they just want to one-up the competition. It reminds me of a pack of wolves. I find it hard to believe integrity is a trait that applicants are even asked about anymore before they join the news.
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written by BobRobertsonsbunt, January 23, 2012 - 11:35 AM
written by BobRobertsonsbunt, January 23, 2012 - 11:35 AM
rjlesnak,
In many media outlets (especially those dealing with one local, controlling entity), while the reporters may want to go with a story, the managers may decide it better for business not to run it. Could cost too much not only from a financial point of view, but an informational one as well.
In many media outlets (especially those dealing with one local, controlling entity), while the reporters may want to go with a story, the managers may decide it better for business not to run it. Could cost too much not only from a financial point of view, but an informational one as well.
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written by icechips, January 23, 2012 - 11:35 AM
written by icechips, January 23, 2012 - 11:35 AM
*t is what it is. Bums in every profession. There are media people to respect and ones to scorn. The bottom line is everything is about money today.That is what is turning America into garbage.
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written by JimGott, January 23, 2012 - 11:36 AM
written by JimGott, January 23, 2012 - 11:36 AM
"To blame the media for the mistakes of one or a few organizations would be like labeling all professional sports teams as thuggish on the basis of how the New York Islanders conducted themselves in their infamous game with the Penguins last year."
-Kind of like demonizing an entire religion based on the despicable actions of a few human beings who say they practice that religion. Or the demonization of an entire university based on the behavior and inaction of a few human individuals.
-Kind of like demonizing an entire religion based on the despicable actions of a few human beings who say they practice that religion. Or the demonization of an entire university based on the behavior and inaction of a few human individuals.
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written by DB21, January 23, 2012 - 11:47 AM
written by DB21, January 23, 2012 - 11:47 AM
A lot of people are conspiracy theorists. That cynicism carries over into everything (media, government, excessive fines and suspensions against the Steelers, etc.).
But I agree that the media has changed, especially in the speed that information is transmitted. And mistakes are made. But instead of jumping on the Paterno story like some posters did, I waited to see who else was reporting it.
For people who care about the truth of a story, it isn't a race.
But I agree that the media has changed, especially in the speed that information is transmitted. And mistakes are made. But instead of jumping on the Paterno story like some posters did, I waited to see who else was reporting it.
For people who care about the truth of a story, it isn't a race.
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written by BlueSinSav, January 23, 2012 - 11:49 AM
Very nice point, Jimmy. You and I are just as indiviual as fans as ESPN and FOX are as media.
written by BlueSinSav, January 23, 2012 - 11:49 AM
Why does "the media" have to lump "the fans" together as if we were a single entity????? :-)
Very nice point, Jimmy. You and I are just as indiviual as fans as ESPN and FOX are as media.
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written by Burghman28, January 23, 2012 - 11:57 AM
written by Burghman28, January 23, 2012 - 11:57 AM
Here is the funny thing about the media and the public that support it.... One really relies on the other yet neither ever seem to be happy with one another. Almost like a typical marriage.
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written by arriba!21, January 23, 2012 - 12:00 PM
written by arriba!21, January 23, 2012 - 12:00 PM
What we continue to forget about the media is that it is controlled by a very few number of people who use it to create the illusion that left and right are genuine choices that we have. Nothing can be further from the truth. Those who REALLY control the strings to make us believe that we have a choice are the same ones who fill our heads with non-sense. God only knows how much mindless programing we subject ourselves to day in, day out--whether it be sports, American idol, or the falsification of news. We are being programmed to not see what is really going on behind the scenes. What is going on behind the scenes is undermining our basic freedoms. It is scary if you dig a bit...
Perhaps you could name the ``very few'' people who control the media and explain how that works. I'd love to hear it. -- Bob Smizik
Perhaps you could name the ``very few'' people who control the media and explain how that works. I'd love to hear it. -- Bob Smizik
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written by burgh1972, January 23, 2012 - 12:02 PM
written by burgh1972, January 23, 2012 - 12:02 PM
Thoughts:
- You've got to be kidding me with this one Bob....
- Maybe errors are highlight to counter the arrogance of those in the media who think their poo don't stink....Just look how you respond when people raise issues about the local media; you either delete them, come back saying how outrageous it is to question them or say try to point how how stupid the poster is by imaging the media could have an impact on anything.
- I also think most of the media used to worry about just writing for their newspapers. Now they all want to be TV stars so they push the limits to get that extra attention. Thank ESPN for that but don't blame the reader.
- You've got to be kidding me with this one Bob....
- Maybe errors are highlight to counter the arrogance of those in the media who think their poo don't stink....Just look how you respond when people raise issues about the local media; you either delete them, come back saying how outrageous it is to question them or say try to point how how stupid the poster is by imaging the media could have an impact on anything.
- I also think most of the media used to worry about just writing for their newspapers. Now they all want to be TV stars so they push the limits to get that extra attention. Thank ESPN for that but don't blame the reader.
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written by squirmingfacts, January 23, 2012 - 12:05 PM
Your job as a human is to sift through the crap.
Word of a man's death can only come from one source...that dying man and the room that he is in when he passes. The people in the room aren't "multiple" sources...the phone calls that go out to other friends and family aren't reports. The man and his bed are the "source" of the event. Nothing will change that or the secondhand nature of this type of story.
Cascading information? I should hope so, otherwise there was far too many people in that room. Near-singular voice? Sounds like new age BS to me. How can something be Near-Singular? It is either singular or it isn't. "Gee Francis I had a Near-Singular bypass the other day, except for the other three blockages".
Doesn't work does it?
A bad day for media? Not really. A bad day to believe everything you read right away...that is if you care at all about the story itself. Happens all the time. You can call the reports that regurgitate the information without checking it out first lazy...and they are. But, not challenging yourself to verify something would also be considered lazy.
I like Coke but I hate Pepsi..yet Pepsi throwback is delicious and might even be better than Coke. I like Baseball, but I hate when guys that claim to be Soccer junkies write about it...it cheapens things up knowing my baseball guy actually enjoys soccer.
All kidding aside, life is funny...and then it's over. Nothing is indefensible. I encourage every human to check their own sources.
written by squirmingfacts, January 23, 2012 - 12:05 PM
It was not a good night for journalism, but it was a great example of how "the media" often acts in a near-singular voice based on cascading information.
Your job as a human is to sift through the crap.
Word of a man's death can only come from one source...that dying man and the room that he is in when he passes. The people in the room aren't "multiple" sources...the phone calls that go out to other friends and family aren't reports. The man and his bed are the "source" of the event. Nothing will change that or the secondhand nature of this type of story.
Cascading information? I should hope so, otherwise there was far too many people in that room. Near-singular voice? Sounds like new age BS to me. How can something be Near-Singular? It is either singular or it isn't. "Gee Francis I had a Near-Singular bypass the other day, except for the other three blockages".
Doesn't work does it?
A bad day for media? Not really. A bad day to believe everything you read right away...that is if you care at all about the story itself. Happens all the time. You can call the reports that regurgitate the information without checking it out first lazy...and they are. But, not challenging yourself to verify something would also be considered lazy.
I like Coke but I hate Pepsi..yet Pepsi throwback is delicious and might even be better than Coke. I like Baseball, but I hate when guys that claim to be Soccer junkies write about it...it cheapens things up knowing my baseball guy actually enjoys soccer.
All kidding aside, life is funny...and then it's over. Nothing is indefensible. I encourage every human to check their own sources.
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written by Californication, January 23, 2012 - 12:07 PM
written by Californication, January 23, 2012 - 12:07 PM
Media Instanity
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An other technological marvel ... the "media" in the internut age.
When the Don Henley wrote "Dirty Laundry" and had them "get the widow on the set" it was snowflake in the avalanche.
Today's media can get you fired, overthrown and killed...see Paterno, Mubarak and Quadafi. And with a $Billion dollars it can get you elected president of the Free World....see Super PAC.
Yessir, it's all about eyeballs and with every wingnut in world staring in and dreaming of being heard, beating the market or the next Go Daddy ad....well, it's only right to point a finger at your contentormentor, now isn't it?
Will the BORG evolve or will it embrace the Matrix...tune in next week to find out!
exhoo
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An other technological marvel ... the "media" in the internut age.
When the Don Henley wrote "Dirty Laundry" and had them "get the widow on the set" it was snowflake in the avalanche.
Today's media can get you fired, overthrown and killed...see Paterno, Mubarak and Quadafi. And with a $Billion dollars it can get you elected president of the Free World....see Super PAC.
Yessir, it's all about eyeballs and with every wingnut in world staring in and dreaming of being heard, beating the market or the next Go Daddy ad....well, it's only right to point a finger at your contentormentor, now isn't it?
Will the BORG evolve or will it embrace the Matrix...tune in next week to find out!
exhoo
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written by ISIS, January 23, 2012 - 12:10 PM
written by ISIS, January 23, 2012 - 12:10 PM
I've read where people are blaming the media for Joe Paterno's death.
And that is simply preposterous.
Stress was the main culprit in the death of Joe Paterno.
Stress is indeed a killer, especially when a person is 85 years old and in ill-health to begin with.
And that is simply preposterous.
Stress was the main culprit in the death of Joe Paterno.
Stress is indeed a killer, especially when a person is 85 years old and in ill-health to begin with.
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written by rochestermark, January 23, 2012 - 12:10 PM
written by rochestermark, January 23, 2012 - 12:10 PM
@DIMDEM: you are spot on mate.
Economics 101: Its a supply and demand thing and in this case, as you said, if there is demand for sensationalized weather and sleazy reports of Lindsy Lohan etc. etc. etc. then the media will supply it.
Just building on this; if we as a society feel the need to know "RIGHT NOW" (not 3 hours from now) the score of a game or Tom Cruise getting a divorce or whatever, then someone will find a way to supply it and check the validity of it later. Our so called "social media" culture feeds this and has created a market for it.
We have ourselves to blame.
Try this at home: Dont watch the local news or the weather channel. You can get very accurate weather information about your local area on the internet -- anytime -- and it is not sensationalized.
Just because you CAN do something, does not mean you should.
Economics 101: Its a supply and demand thing and in this case, as you said, if there is demand for sensationalized weather and sleazy reports of Lindsy Lohan etc. etc. etc. then the media will supply it.
Just building on this; if we as a society feel the need to know "RIGHT NOW" (not 3 hours from now) the score of a game or Tom Cruise getting a divorce or whatever, then someone will find a way to supply it and check the validity of it later. Our so called "social media" culture feeds this and has created a market for it.
We have ourselves to blame.
Try this at home: Dont watch the local news or the weather channel. You can get very accurate weather information about your local area on the internet -- anytime -- and it is not sensationalized.
Just because you CAN do something, does not mean you should.
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written by seattlematthew, January 23, 2012 - 12:12 PM
written by seattlematthew, January 23, 2012 - 12:12 PM
I'm not trying to be snarky, but if you used the word "media" in its proper form, as a plural word, your argument would be much stronger.
So many people use "media" as a singular noun, versus the plural of "medium." If people would remember that "media" is a plural word, maybe they'd more easily remember that the word connotes tens of thousands of news outlets, etc.
So many people use "media" as a singular noun, versus the plural of "medium." If people would remember that "media" is a plural word, maybe they'd more easily remember that the word connotes tens of thousands of news outlets, etc.
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written by Bloomsday, January 23, 2012 - 12:13 PM
written by Bloomsday, January 23, 2012 - 12:13 PM
I think criticizing the "media" is lazy and too populist. It's so easy to say "the media this" or "the media that" without establishing which member of said media is being criticized. What I find most ridiculous are those who are in the media who blame the media for issues, not realizing that they themselves are part of the media. This usually happens for political "pundits" who don't consider themselves to be part of the media.
Even worse is when the criticism is a result of not an incorrect piece done by a particular medium, but when the criticism comes from a disagreement with the piece. Just because you don't agree with something you've read doesn't mean it's a media conspiracy.
Even worse is when the criticism is a result of not an incorrect piece done by a particular medium, but when the criticism comes from a disagreement with the piece. Just because you don't agree with something you've read doesn't mean it's a media conspiracy.
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written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 12:24 PM
written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 12:24 PM
I respect and empathize with your defense here, Bob.
Your body of work contradicts the acts that have turned "the media" into an indignant synonym and at least on some level, that makes you angry.
Just know that some people who may throw around "the media" are using it as a plural and not as a blanket.
Your body of work contradicts the acts that have turned "the media" into an indignant synonym and at least on some level, that makes you angry.
Just know that some people who may throw around "the media" are using it as a plural and not as a blanket.
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written by badmaafala, January 23, 2012 - 12:24 PM
written by badmaafala, January 23, 2012 - 12:24 PM
by the same token, the "media", both big and small, rushed to judgement on Paterno! Much has been speculated, and more needs to be known, but because of the way it was handled by the media, the story became the Joe Paterno scandal instead of the Jerry Sandusky scandal.
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written by ndhoops, January 23, 2012 - 12:35 PM
written by ndhoops, January 23, 2012 - 12:35 PM
Good post Bob. Flipped the other way the actions or comments of some individuals or blog posters do not represent all fans.
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written by CliveJameson, January 23, 2012 - 12:37 PM
Two issues spring to mind.
The current news cycle is 24x7 and intense. There is more pressure than ever to be first and not necessarily the most accurate. That is an evolving problem that ubiquitous Internet access makes more prominent than ever. There will always be someone jumping the gun.
The second challenge is that the media (collective) benefit from larger, more provocative stories. The media, as a collective report on more than the facts, they interpret them. There is a natural tendency to take the interpretation toward the larger and, more provocative angle.
I think it is correct to observe that as electronic media evolve those are two significant influences that are much more prominent than they had been in the past.
Resisting the influence is the job of the media consumer. Jumping at TMZ, Profootball Talk, and overreacting feed the beast that we complain collectively complain about.
Rewarding responsible, considered journalism is the only defense against the over ready sensationalism.
written by CliveJameson, January 23, 2012 - 12:37 PM
Two issues spring to mind.
The current news cycle is 24x7 and intense. There is more pressure than ever to be first and not necessarily the most accurate. That is an evolving problem that ubiquitous Internet access makes more prominent than ever. There will always be someone jumping the gun.
The second challenge is that the media (collective) benefit from larger, more provocative stories. The media, as a collective report on more than the facts, they interpret them. There is a natural tendency to take the interpretation toward the larger and, more provocative angle.
I think it is correct to observe that as electronic media evolve those are two significant influences that are much more prominent than they had been in the past.
Resisting the influence is the job of the media consumer. Jumping at TMZ, Profootball Talk, and overreacting feed the beast that we complain collectively complain about.
Rewarding responsible, considered journalism is the only defense against the over ready sensationalism.
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written by BJD35, January 23, 2012 - 12:40 PM
written by BJD35, January 23, 2012 - 12:40 PM
The freedom of press is one of greatest things about this country. The Internet and social media allows anyone with a computer to be in the media. Usually, people get it right.
Dewey defeats Truman happened without the likes of Twitter and Facebook or Bob's blog. At least this country operates without censorship.
As an aside, Joepa's death is sad. But the fact a halo was placed above his head shows little had changed in the mindset of those at State College.
Paterno was a great coach, but he was not a saint.
Dewey defeats Truman happened without the likes of Twitter and Facebook or Bob's blog. At least this country operates without censorship.
As an aside, Joepa's death is sad. But the fact a halo was placed above his head shows little had changed in the mindset of those at State College.
Paterno was a great coach, but he was not a saint.
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written by Jopa-n, January 23, 2012 - 12:45 PM
written by Jopa-n, January 23, 2012 - 12:45 PM
Bob's right in that it is incorrect to absolutetly blanket all of any profession oe entity in doing or feeling some way.
I do think though, that it is understood that the term 'media' used in a group fashion, does not mean every and all. I never looked at it that way.
I always felt those who heard the term used in a broad sense, understood that it applied to those who responded in like manner to a person or situation.
Maybe we just need to expect less common sense and be more deliberate. Like 'Anyone in the media who said or did......'.
I do think though, that it is understood that the term 'media' used in a group fashion, does not mean every and all. I never looked at it that way.
I always felt those who heard the term used in a broad sense, understood that it applied to those who responded in like manner to a person or situation.
Maybe we just need to expect less common sense and be more deliberate. Like 'Anyone in the media who said or did......'.
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written by heartbeatsings, January 23, 2012 - 01:08 PM
I've always been a big fan of the media. We wouldn't still be a democracy without it.
written by heartbeatsings, January 23, 2012 - 01:08 PM
I've always been a big fan of the media. We wouldn't still be a democracy without it.
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written by chollister, January 23, 2012 - 02:15 PM
written by chollister, January 23, 2012 - 02:15 PM
I have zero problem with the media actually. I laugh when people complain about idiots out there but they follow 3,000 people on twitter.
The problem is with the consumer. The JoePa fiasco aside because that was one outlet making a mistake (and other outlets showing solid journalism) most people dont care or are too lazy to find out enough info to make a valued opinion.
You see it all the time in politics. My republican buddy hates CNN, my liberal buddy hates Fox News, yet neither of them can answer my simple questions to them on taxing, the governments budget, healthcare, welfare stats etc etc
They have no clue.
Just throw big numbers and statistics around and the mob will come - a - running.
The info is out there, people just to want to learn which they simply do not.
The problem is with the consumer. The JoePa fiasco aside because that was one outlet making a mistake (and other outlets showing solid journalism) most people dont care or are too lazy to find out enough info to make a valued opinion.
You see it all the time in politics. My republican buddy hates CNN, my liberal buddy hates Fox News, yet neither of them can answer my simple questions to them on taxing, the governments budget, healthcare, welfare stats etc etc
They have no clue.
Just throw big numbers and statistics around and the mob will come - a - running.
The info is out there, people just to want to learn which they simply do not.
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written by chollister, January 23, 2012 - 02:20 PM
written by chollister, January 23, 2012 - 02:20 PM
....sorry last sentence made no sense. The info is out there for people to learn they simply do not take the time to do it.
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written by rccola, January 23, 2012 - 02:23 PM
written by rccola, January 23, 2012 - 02:23 PM
Bob this is a sports blog so i hesitate to get into why so many hold contempt for the media .......
Sorry, I had to cut you off there. This is a sports blog, not a politics blog. -- Bob Smizik
Sorry, I had to cut you off there. This is a sports blog, not a politics blog. -- Bob Smizik
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written by badmaafala, January 23, 2012 - 02:29 PM
Excellent post from a blog: You people and your cruel comments about Joe Paterno reflect your character. Like most of the media you have judged a man you know little about. His lifetime of caring for others is evidence of the sincerity of his comments about the situation with Sandusky. He did all that he could do at the time of the situation he was faced with. As a teacher I am a mandated reporter in any suspected child abuse case. We were in-serviced by the PA state attorney for our governor and specifically directed to follow a specific protocol for reporting such abuse. When you are not an eye witness in a case you must report the incident to your supervisor or guidance department. At that time they are to follow through with the investigation. You are not allowed to interfere with this once you report it because you would be liable if the reports were false. Joe did what he was suppose to do and those of you who have rushed to judgment have done it on the basis of impulse and emotion without knowing anything about the evidence at hand. Maybe we should just turn over all prosecution and judgment in our society to the internet and media outlets. Why not just do away with our justice system since you all think that a person is guilty without due process. Remember the situation at Duke University where such judgments were proven false and innocent people's lives were ruined. How many of you are guilty of sexual infidelity to God and your mates? Maybe you would like to be judged in the same manner that you have judged Joe.
written by badmaafala, January 23, 2012 - 02:29 PM
Excellent post from a blog: You people and your cruel comments about Joe Paterno reflect your character. Like most of the media you have judged a man you know little about. His lifetime of caring for others is evidence of the sincerity of his comments about the situation with Sandusky. He did all that he could do at the time of the situation he was faced with. As a teacher I am a mandated reporter in any suspected child abuse case. We were in-serviced by the PA state attorney for our governor and specifically directed to follow a specific protocol for reporting such abuse. When you are not an eye witness in a case you must report the incident to your supervisor or guidance department. At that time they are to follow through with the investigation. You are not allowed to interfere with this once you report it because you would be liable if the reports were false. Joe did what he was suppose to do and those of you who have rushed to judgment have done it on the basis of impulse and emotion without knowing anything about the evidence at hand. Maybe we should just turn over all prosecution and judgment in our society to the internet and media outlets. Why not just do away with our justice system since you all think that a person is guilty without due process. Remember the situation at Duke University where such judgments were proven false and innocent people's lives were ruined. How many of you are guilty of sexual infidelity to God and your mates? Maybe you would like to be judged in the same manner that you have judged Joe.
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written by Hanover Bill, January 23, 2012 - 02:45 PM
I got a chuckle out of how some of the Stations, TV and Radio, fumbled around trying to be politically correct about how to discuss JoPa's death, Do we praise him, do we vilify him. It seemed like many of them were walking on egg shells as they searched for just the right words. I guess that's the result of a society which places so much importance on the words "politically correct". Too bad our politicians can't get it correct once in a while.
written by Hanover Bill, January 23, 2012 - 02:45 PM
I got a chuckle out of how some of the Stations, TV and Radio, fumbled around trying to be politically correct about how to discuss JoPa's death, Do we praise him, do we vilify him. It seemed like many of them were walking on egg shells as they searched for just the right words. I guess that's the result of a society which places so much importance on the words "politically correct". Too bad our politicians can't get it correct once in a while.
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written by Max, January 23, 2012 - 03:28 PM
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Good piece, Bob.
An illustrative example of the use of the word "But".
What happens in most cases that I have observed, is the writer puts forth some idea that the writer expects or understands their readers to agree with, attempting to draw the reader them in.
Then the writer negates everything said before the "But", by stating their real opinion.
Probably the easiest example to understand is the familiar:
"It's none of my business, BUT, . . . ."
So, readers can save themselves the effort when they see "BUT", and skip ahead to see what the writer really believes.
A good piece, Bob, but maybe that one commenter mentioned the offending local radio station (which is owned by one of the media giants you mention) in an attempt to preempt a challenge from you to name names.
Good piece, Bob.
An illustrative example of the use of the word "But".
What happens in most cases that I have observed, is the writer puts forth some idea that the writer expects or understands their readers to agree with, attempting to draw the reader them in.
Then the writer negates everything said before the "But", by stating their real opinion.
Probably the easiest example to understand is the familiar:
"It's none of my business, BUT, . . . ."
So, readers can save themselves the effort when they see "BUT", and skip ahead to see what the writer really believes.
A good piece, Bob, but maybe that one commenter mentioned the offending local radio station (which is owned by one of the media giants you mention) in an attempt to preempt a challenge from you to name names.
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written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 03:42 PM
written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 03:42 PM
Not to pile it on the media, but look no further than the other Pittsburgh paper today for another example.
Headline: "Police find body of Bridgeville man missing since Dec. 6"
The article clearly states that the police said it's only a possibility that the body found is that of the missing man.
How does that get past an editor?
Headline: "Police find body of Bridgeville man missing since Dec. 6"
The article clearly states that the police said it's only a possibility that the body found is that of the missing man.
How does that get past an editor?
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written by BarelySane, January 23, 2012 - 03:57 PM
Here's a list of deaths that were reported prematurely. Joe Paterno's has already been added.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...obituaries
written by BarelySane, January 23, 2012 - 03:57 PM
Here's a list of deaths that were reported prematurely. Joe Paterno's has already been added.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...obituaries
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written by Curmudgeon, January 23, 2012 - 04:30 PM
written by Curmudgeon, January 23, 2012 - 04:30 PM
Some good points raised in this thread. But also much ignorance on the media is revealed.
Just like most plumbers, school teachers, postal workers, doctors, lawyers...every profession, those in the media go about their jobs in a professional, responsible manner. Then there those in every profession who are lazy or incompetent. Those who lost perspective on their responsibility and take shortcuts. But they are the few. You can't broadbrush an entire profession for the shortcomings of a few.
One of the most useless statements I hear, whether the subject be sports, politics or the weather, is "It's the media's fault." Once you hear someone make that statement, you can be sure plenty of other similarly nonsensical statements will follow.
Just like most plumbers, school teachers, postal workers, doctors, lawyers...every profession, those in the media go about their jobs in a professional, responsible manner. Then there those in every profession who are lazy or incompetent. Those who lost perspective on their responsibility and take shortcuts. But they are the few. You can't broadbrush an entire profession for the shortcomings of a few.
One of the most useless statements I hear, whether the subject be sports, politics or the weather, is "It's the media's fault." Once you hear someone make that statement, you can be sure plenty of other similarly nonsensical statements will follow.
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written by WKC, January 23, 2012 - 06:00 PM
written by WKC, January 23, 2012 - 06:00 PM
The media isn't a single entity, and neither are the fans, as much as the media attempts to present it as such.
I didn't see the comment that brought on this blog entry, but I will say I first heard that CBSSports.com was the source reporting that Paterno died Saturday night.
I immediately went online and saw it on the CBSsports.com they reported his death.
Later that night, I heard 'The Fan' (A CBS station)report that a student blog was responsible for the reporting error. Of course, no mention of CBSsports.com
Not painting with a broad brush, but I think I understand why people do when I notice things like that.
I didn't see the comment that brought on this blog entry, but I will say I first heard that CBSSports.com was the source reporting that Paterno died Saturday night.
I immediately went online and saw it on the CBSsports.com they reported his death.
Later that night, I heard 'The Fan' (A CBS station)report that a student blog was responsible for the reporting error. Of course, no mention of CBSsports.com
Not painting with a broad brush, but I think I understand why people do when I notice things like that.
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written by IronCityDrinker, January 23, 2012 - 06:13 PM
written by IronCityDrinker, January 23, 2012 - 06:13 PM
A fascinating take on what people think of the media. One hopes one remembers this when fans are generalized together, i.e. "The Steeler Conspiracy." We are all unique, and we all have different opinions.
The difference is when the media writes, reports, broadcasts, etc., some news, they expect you to believe it, without question. And when a person questions it, they are mocked or told they are whining.
Fact is, the media is much like Roger Goodell. Hypocritical. They cried when James Harrison hit a player too hard, yet showed the video over and over. The demanded rule changes, yet put the hit/hitter on covers.
The media does what they have to sell, to drum up readership, viewership. And that's okay. It's a business. Anyone who reads Pittsburgh writers knows they "trick." Whatever the fans are for, the media is against. Hate Leyland? They Love him. Love Cowher? He's a doofus. Question Bruce Arians? HE's SUPER BOWL WINNER!. Classic Pittsburgh media.
So, while you have your opinion about the media, it's just that. Opinion. I personally disagree with your assessment. As is my right. Now, go ahead and call me a whiner, like all the other sports fans.
The difference is when the media writes, reports, broadcasts, etc., some news, they expect you to believe it, without question. And when a person questions it, they are mocked or told they are whining.
Fact is, the media is much like Roger Goodell. Hypocritical. They cried when James Harrison hit a player too hard, yet showed the video over and over. The demanded rule changes, yet put the hit/hitter on covers.
The media does what they have to sell, to drum up readership, viewership. And that's okay. It's a business. Anyone who reads Pittsburgh writers knows they "trick." Whatever the fans are for, the media is against. Hate Leyland? They Love him. Love Cowher? He's a doofus. Question Bruce Arians? HE's SUPER BOWL WINNER!. Classic Pittsburgh media.
So, while you have your opinion about the media, it's just that. Opinion. I personally disagree with your assessment. As is my right. Now, go ahead and call me a whiner, like all the other sports fans.
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written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 06:41 PM
written by NMR, January 23, 2012 - 06:41 PM
@WKC
You make a great point and one that I'd love to hear Bob comment on.
I don't profess to know the inner workings of print media, but it seems like there used to be a standard of verifying sources and taking ownership of your writing.
In my opinion, CBS's response is nothing short of cowardly.
They took a chance in running with no more than second hand information without even knowing, let alone verifying the source.
They failed miserably, yet showed zero acknowledgement of their wrongs.
Yeah, I'm sure they learned their lesson.
You make a great point and one that I'd love to hear Bob comment on.
I don't profess to know the inner workings of print media, but it seems like there used to be a standard of verifying sources and taking ownership of your writing.
In my opinion, CBS's response is nothing short of cowardly.
They took a chance in running with no more than second hand information without even knowing, let alone verifying the source.
They failed miserably, yet showed zero acknowledgement of their wrongs.
Yeah, I'm sure they learned their lesson.
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written by Gamardo95, January 24, 2012 - 11:03 AM
written by Gamardo95, January 24, 2012 - 11:03 AM
Ratings=media revenue...that's all that really matters...I often think of the scenes in "All the President's Men" and the lengths Woodward, Bernstein and Ben Bradlee went to to get it right before publishing. Are there no longer editors??? My cynicism assures me that the bottom line of all the issues commented on above are directed by the quest for the dollar, AS FIRST REPORTED HERE!!!
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In regards to the Patrno fiasco I agree that media is a lose term used. The issue there really was social media as it picked up steam on twitter. CBS was the only "major" or local outlet that I saw make the mistake (not saying there werent others).
But it seemed the Pittsburgh Media as well as major national news site waited to do their homework. Was actually pretty good journalism minus CBS.